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        maccast
      
      
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        Did I miss a memo?
      
     
    
      
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        DocRock
      
      
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        maccast where is the host?
      
     
    
      
        maccast
      
      
        18:04:07      
      
        They went on DST last week
      
     
    
      
        maccast
      
      
        18:04:15      
      
        We're on in an hour
      
     
    
    
      
        maccast
      
      
        18:05:15      
      
        I'm guessing their down at the pub. Bunch of toss pots.
      
     
    
      
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        GBRedneck
      
      
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        wheres ewen shouldn't he be in the channel?
      
     
    
      
        maccast
      
      
        18:13:41      
      
        They went on DST last week. So we're in the time warp this week
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        18:13:58      
      
        aah its not a live show Doh!!!
      
     
    
      
        maccast
      
      
        18:14:27      
      
        All will be right with the continuum next week, but for now the show is an hour later.
      
     
    
      
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        Evening all
      
     
    
      
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        Going by who’s in here, has there been some confusion over the switch from BST back to GMT? ;)
      
     
    
      
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        mullerbiker
      
      
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        Hello everybody
      
     
    
      
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        Clock adjusting is just ignorant on all accounts. As time is conceptual any way there should only be one global clock and we all just adjust our vocab to match
      
     
    
      
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        tioaboa
      
      
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        Hello all
      
     
    
      
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        Serenak
      
      
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        you are up and live
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
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        sound is good
      
     
    
    
      
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        BronwynECG
      
      
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        nobody in here but us chickens :P 
      
     
    
      
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        awwwwwwwwww  my hugs are always free Ewen  
      
     
    
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
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        oh BTW Ewen sorry to hear about your car.....
      
     
    
      
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        DeepPan
      
      
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        evening all
      
     
    
      
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        maccast
      
      
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        evening @deeppan
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
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        We are allowed to mess around with the time, as it’s all based from here :D
      
     
    
      
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        back in your box muller! :D
      
     
    
      
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        Majikman
      
      
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        Evening all
      
     
    
      
        mullerbiker
      
      
        19:02:47      
      
        DeepPan: noone puts mullerbiker in a box
      
     
    
      
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        DeepPan
      
      
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        muller quoting DIrty Dancing :D :D :D 
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
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        end of the 2nd quarter Doc? ;)
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
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        Battle of Britain? :D
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:05:50      
      
        More like Patrice’s Grand Tour
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        19:06:42      
      
        So, the Touch Bar. Sounds like a pub Muller would go to ;)
      
     
    
      
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        Evening all
      
     
    
      
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        It wasn't the keynote that was the problem, it was what was not said
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        Exactly @maccast
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        No SD reader, no displayport, no ethernet.  Dongle city.  Not pro
      
     
    
      
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        19:10:28      
      
        If the TouchBar is the way forward and getting rid of function keys, in Apple’s mind, why offer a version of the MacBook Pro without the TouchBar and with function keys?
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
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        Apple has reduced the price of RAM upgrades.
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
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        agreed and limited to 16GB
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        Does @docrock support Man U by any chance? 😂
      
     
    
      
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        19:12:07      
      
        Is this latest MacBook Pro just Apple going into a “holding pattern”, getting ready to switch desktops & laptops away from Intel and onto there own A Chips?
      
     
    
      
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        Touch Bar is cool tech, but why put a 2x larger trackpad in?  Ergonomics are all wrong as @ewen has already stated
      
     
    
    
      
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        The new Mac Pro is prosumer.
      
     
    
      
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        Will there be a TouchBar-equipped Apple keyboard?
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        @ewen has a holo chest 😂
      
     
    
    
      
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        Isn't there a limit to how battery power can be put into a laptop?
      
     
    
      
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        Majikman
      
      
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        How much
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker_
      
      
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        1 billliiiiooooonnnnn pounds
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        @majkiman until it explodes?
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
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        Ala samsung
      
     
    
    
      
        patrice
      
      
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        Majikman: Well.. if you increase the size.. not really
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
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        At some point it gets less mobile though ;)
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
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        I thought I heard there is a limit to the amount of power in a laptop you can take on a plane
      
     
    
      
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        We have a W chip, T chip, just need an F chip and we have WTF
      
     
    
    
      
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        @patrice that is you though.  I use SD, ethernet, USB, displayport
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        Fuck dongles
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        19:20:59      
      
        I think the FAA have a milliamp/hour limit on batteries it’ll allow on any flight, which is starting to hit on what can go into a laptop. You could put faster CPU and GPU, more memory, but with the battery limit you could only run it for a couple of hours on battery only
      
     
    
    
      
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        I know Ian.. but you’re definitely a minority. 
      
     
    
      
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        patrice
      
      
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        I use an external card reader (because CF)
      
     
    
      
        Ewen
      
      
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        See above Deeppan
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
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        Thanks Ewen, saw that just as I hit “send” :)
      
     
    
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:23:42      
      
        In all my life never snagged a power cable and pulled any laptop of the table/desk
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        19:25:32      
      
        Apple os DOOOOOOOOMMEDDDD!! :P 
      
     
    
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        MagSafe was taking too much room up for Jony 'slim it down' Ive
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
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        And a headphone jack in it!!! :D :D
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
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        Just Grease your lightning cable :)
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        No @tiioaboa don't forget FireWire!
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        19:28:35      
      
        I hear apple is going to [hase out the display and keyboard
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:28:41      
      
        Lightning came out before USB-C was ready for the market
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:28:51      
      
        So how long before iPhone goes Thunderbolt?
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
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        Nothing wrong with RS-232! :D
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:29:28      
      
        My older Macs use semaphore to connect......
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:29:56      
      
        When it first came out the magsafe was called a gimmick
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        19:30:10      
      
        You can only hear the startup bong through your new Ear Pods. Oh, wait …. :D
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        19:30:19      
      
        I love the bong!! :P 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
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        MagSafe is indeed the best mobile tech ever made :D
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        19:30:25      
      
        Someone has kidnapped Ewen he taking about bongs and had chicken and chips in he kismit WTF
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        19:30:29      
      
        ACTION inhales XD 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
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        and the Chime/Bong can be turned back on
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        19:30:51      
      
        Moron Line Orders?
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
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        Oh sarcasm Ewen
      
     
    
    
      
        windrider
      
      
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        Sorry, wrong link
      
     
    
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:32:07      
      
        therapist vs the rapist
      
     
    
      
        WesFL
      
      
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        it takes 'Courage' to buy one
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:33:35      
      
        @ewen iMovie on your phone 😂
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
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        @WesFL lol
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:33:59      
      
        2 grand is the new 1 grand
      
     
    
      
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        19:34:07      
      
        They’ll have to introduce a $999 base MacBook, not sure how low they’d have to make the specs though
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        19:34:23      
      
        entry level machine is a ridiculous price!
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:34:37      
      
        We aren't going to help year on year decline in Mac sales if they are pricing people out of the market
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:34:56      
      
        And it won't be iPads they are buying it will be Windows laptops
      
     
    
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        19:35:15      
      
        Can I have an 8 bit apple laptop?
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:35:41      
      
        They gave you more colours that you can't even print
      
     
    
      
        WesFL
      
      
        19:35:51      
      
        @ewen it's now space gray - surely worth 3000
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        19:35:54      
      
        entry level machine is the air now
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        19:36:28      
      
        Air is on a stock wind down now
      
     
    
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        19:36:58      
      
        oh well on the upside keeps our old models values up
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:38:11      
      
        IBM is spending less on IT since switching to Mac
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:38:41      
      
        The offering is a very under powered MacBook or the MBP and nothing in between (in terms of pricing)
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        19:39:28      
      
        £2700 for 15 inch macbook …..
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:39:39      
      
        I'll take 2
      
     
    
      
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        Serenak
      
      
        19:40:15      
      
        as I said in slackroom - and no this isn’t Apples to Aoples 
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:40:20      
      
        The entry-level TouchBar 13-inch MBP in Oz is $3119.
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        19:40:42      
      
        I think this week, a lot of long term, professional Mac users are taking a look at Microsofts offerings seriously
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:40:48      
      
        but a decent(ish) HP Elitebook refurb can be had for £300
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        19:40:49      
      
        4 grand if you select every option! 2TB SSD is £1000!
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:40:57      
      
        @DeepPan Nope
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:41:05      
      
        Does DocRock realise that his outfitr makes him look like a christmas elf?
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:41:07      
      
        that is 1/6 or less of a new MBP
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        19:41:17      
      
        Patrice yep
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        19:41:19      
      
        @serenak indeed get a corporate one bombproof 
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:41:20      
      
        @batwench lol
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:41:24      
      
        But to move to a cheaper would cost me thousands of pounds in new software
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:41:58      
      
        depends on what software you use or rely on
      
     
    
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        19:42:24      
      
        Microsoft is copying a little bit!
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:42:28      
      
        How do you know ewen the 7 and the touch bar are just out
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:42:46      
      
        Take the new 15-in MBP & max it out, the price in Oz is $6649
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:42:52      
      
        Apple haven't surprised for a long time
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:42:57      
      
        not saying that I would change - but I can no longer really rationalise the “premium"
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:43:02      
      
        Apple Pencil maybe
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:43:13      
      
        Air pods
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:43:49      
      
        when a Macbook was maybe 2x the price of a midrange PC laptop I could justify it in TCO and resale and longevity
      
     
    
    
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        19:44:27      
      
        gigner beer for the win
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:44:33      
      
        batwench, LOL
      
     
    
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:44:42      
      
        Tim's favourite line over the last few years 'we're very excited about our product pipeline.'  Still waiting Tim...
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:45:14      
      
        I can’t believe that they are going $ for £ on the new kit. not impressed.
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:45:38      
      
        Ewen we would have never have guessed
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        19:45:45      
      
        Okay I
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        19:45:59      
      
        Okay I’m back. SHow can start now :P 
      
     
    
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:47:17      
      
        well batwench That’s the Brexit for you :P
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:47:41      
      
        patrice: may not happen. have you seen the UK news about the court ruling?
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        19:47:51      
      
        yep tioaboa ginger beer is great 
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:47:56      
      
        Maybe we've reach a plateau and an optimum design with most tech. Do you remember all the weird shaped phones and laptops just too be different
      
     
    
      
        WesFL
      
      
        19:48:23      
      
        people with lots of $$$
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:48:23      
      
        @batwench Doewsn’t matter. The pound suffered because of it
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:48:36      
      
        no the 20% is Brexit/Slumped Sterling - Apple still jacked the prices by 25-35%
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        19:48:40      
      
        majikman maybe your right 
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:48:47      
      
        patrice: even though it has gone up today but it is still borked for a while
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:48:56      
      
        @Serenak Yes.. but world wide. Not just the UK
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:49:07      
      
        But batwench, if you take out the VAT then UK base prices are slightly less then US prices
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        19:49:18      
      
        Fenebahe 2 Manure O 89th minute 
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        19:49:21      
      
        wow 600 GB O.O 
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:49:21      
      
        Pro stitute....
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:49:27      
      
        Slightly yes but for how long?
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:49:44      
      
        Until the pound recovers
      
     
    
      
        DocRock
      
      
        19:49:50      
      
        windrider Right
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:49:57      
      
        Well as the dollar rate gets better the even cheaper
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        19:50:31      
      
        Im sharing your pain Doc
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:50:31      
      
        A friend called himself a professional boxer years ago: his job was to assemble wooden boxes
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:50:58      
      
        I can’t speak for anywhere else Patrice - but Apple hiked the prices over the previous models by around 30%
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:51:33      
      
        any extra the UK pays in exchange rates is not what I am talking about
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:51:37      
      
        @Serenak I know. ANd that’s because the pound is weaker now. Apple just waited a while
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:52:10      
      
        The new models are more expensive anywhere… and we were just talking about that 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        19:52:48      
      
        I think my stream is running behind...
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:52:56      
      
        I would argue MBP okay for photography, not for video
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:53:03      
      
        MacBook Pro or MacBook Con?
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:53:10      
      
        While I am more a Argos £20 watch kind of girl :-)
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:53:39      
      
        Apple have stopped being for geeks and more for fashion?
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:53:45      
      
        IanUK: ANd I would disagree. Plenty of pros do video on their MBP
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:54:02      
      
        @patrice yes by waiting
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        19:54:33      
      
        Not much… I can tell you there’s plenty of other stuff you have to do.
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        19:54:37      
      
        is that sent by Greenie?
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:55:05      
      
        Graeme from a couple of weeks okay needs to be the new Greenie
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:55:24      
      
        I would really not want you lot to wear your pants on the outside
      
     
    
      
        DocRock
      
      
        19:55:26      
      
        sent by Sylvain Distin?
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        19:55:39      
      
        2 - 1 94 min
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        19:56:27      
      
        But, but, it is the spring now!
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:57:40      
      
        Who is going to pick the new MBP as their cool thing? 😂
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        19:58:40      
      
        IanUK: if someone was going to give me a new one I would accept it but my lal MBair is still giving me lots of joy
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        19:59:37      
      
        @batwench I was hoping for an iMac update so I held off.  The BTO option iMac I was looking at is now £400 more so Apple can go do one.  I'll just have too stick with my late 2011 MBP
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:00:02      
      
        I picked up an ex-Apple executive 2014 MacBook Air in April. It had the i7 processor, 512 GB SSD & 8 GB of RAM, at quite a good price.
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:00:06      
      
        IanUK: Have you looked at the refrubished section?
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:00:22      
      
        @batwench haven't actually, good shout
      
     
    
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:00:36      
      
        I'm anti Apple at the moment though 😂
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:00:37      
      
        That was my good idea of the day
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:01:03      
      
        In a few hours, I'm heading out to collect a 128 GB refurbished iPod Touch
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:01:30      
      
        windrider: you buying it?
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:02:03      
      
        batwench, I bought it online from Apple on Sunday
      
     
    
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        20:02:19      
      
        @IanUK We didn’t notice :P
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:02:34      
      
        @ewen has auto updates on just to do away with Apple's 'subtle' update notifications
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:02:40      
      
        @patrice lol
      
     
    
      
        Ewen
      
      
        20:02:54      
      
        IN one IanUK
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:03:03      
      
        batwench, nice indeed: same warranty as new, with new battery, rear cover & accessories & $90 less than new
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:03:11      
      
        Can you imagine the ads that would arrive for Trumps ‘locker room banter’ chats!!!!
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:03:19      
      
        the yook? O.o really? 
      
     
    
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:03:22      
      
        windrider: that last bit was the best bit
      
     
    
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:04:26      
      
        Bioshock2 is on sale in UK app store at the moment £3.99
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:06:08      
      
        I dind the best thing that a key board can do is type
      
     
    
    
      
        DocRock
      
      
        20:06:23      
      
        Karabiner does not work on macOS Sierra at the moment.
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:06:39      
      
        Karabiner does not work on macOS Sierra at the moment.
      
     
    
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:07:57      
      
        TechTool Pro 9 is not yet Sierra compatible either
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:08:50      
      
        @ewen stops crap getting into port as well then
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:09:08      
      
        IanUK: that is a very good point
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:10:04      
      
        Is that cable available with USB-C?
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:10:31      
      
        6S, 6S+, SE, 7 & 7+ have the always on Siri thingie 
      
     
    
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:11:58      
      
        ewen i thought wrighty was your booker?
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:12:33      
      
        Everyone is welcome unless you had an argument with @ewen on Twitter 😂
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:12:57      
      
        Great show, thanks guys
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:12:59      
      
        Ewen:  apparently GoPro stock has stopped trading O.O 
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:13:11      
      
        If your in London pop into LMUG meeting @patrice
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:13:25      
      
        I first met Ewen on Twitter WITH an argument!
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:13:41      
      
        @windrider lol
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        20:13:44      
      
        @Majikman Definitely. When & where?
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:13:51      
      
        We know how Doc pays for the pizza delivery too :D
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:13:57      
      
        windrider: you first met a lot of people with an arguement
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:14:12      
      
        shut up, buttwench!
      
     
    
      
        maccast
      
      
        20:14:17      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:14:39      
      
        Doc’s got a hole in the deepend that needs plugging :D
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:14:40      
      
        windrider: you come across one of these?
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:14:41      
      
        Maybe we'll all have to come out to see you @maccast
      
     
    
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:14:55      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:15:11      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:15:14      
      
        The Microsoft Show?
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:15:29      
      
        batwench:  noooooooooooooooooppppppppppeeeeeee I AM NOT clicking that link
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:15:29      
      
        MacFarts
      
     
    
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:15:51      
      
        Ewen:  the show all about tchotckes :P 
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:15:55      
      
        BronwynECG: she is lovely
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:16:19      
      
        See ya DocRock
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:16:22      
      
        batwench:  I’m already scared of going to Australia cause of spiders
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        20:16:23      
      
        ahhhh nooo
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:16:38      
      
        batwench:  hell I won’t even go to NZ cause of australian spiders
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:16:41      
      
        BronwynECG: I wore Dr Martins the entire time I was there
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:16:58      
      
        theyre scary but harmless
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:17:05      
      
        sez you Serenak 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:17:22      
      
        apparenlty the cause most harm by scaring people to have accidents
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:17:25      
      
        Serenak: well most are. I talk to the ones in our house. Mr B just screams like a girl
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:17:39      
      
        Too long?  If its good does it matteR?
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:17:47      
      
        there are 3500 species of spider in Oz. All are venomous to an extent.
      
     
    
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:17:58      
      
        ACTION makes a face at Ewen 
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        20:18:50      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:18:51      
      
        DeepPan: mobile mousetrap
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:19:01      
      
        my friend is on hols in Oz and sent me photo of a Huntsman that appeared in her garden while she was out having a smoke
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:19:03      
      
        lol, yup
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:20:10      
      
        ginger beer mmmmmmmm
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:20:29      
      
        you know your Big shirt gives you a hole in the chest?
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        20:20:38      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:20:49      
      
        and don’t forget to change the show idennt
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:21:04      
      
        ffs - ident
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:21:41      
      
        hey imitate an american accent to get siri to work XD 
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:22:40      
      
        MacBook Air
      
     
    
      
        Ewen
      
      
        20:22:50      
      
        Name the last Apple Launch that they didnt fuck up?
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:22:52      
      
        MacBook Pro retina?
      
     
    
      
        Ewen
      
      
        20:23:07      
      
        I went back to iPad Pro and then I remembered that the they fucked up the pencil
      
     
    
      
        Ewen
      
      
        20:23:23      
      
        I honestly cant remember the last launch that they didnt fuck up
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:23:31      
      
        Ewen:  every sing one after 1984 ;P 
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:23:39      
      
        single*
      
     
    
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:23:54      
      
        christmas what year? 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:24:00      
      
        or the Airs - not the original the ones they brought in at the bottom
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:24:02      
      
        never heard of her
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:24:12      
      
        ex head of Burberry
      
     
    
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:24:28      
      
        Angela Jean Ahrendts, DBE (born June 7, 1960) is an American businesswoman and the senior vice president of retail at Apple Inc. 
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:24:30      
      
        Ewen: I trusy your links not Mullerbiker ‘s
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:24:34      
      
        not sure - if she is then she needs to go
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:24:36      
      
        I bet she’s still doing a better job than that knob-end they got from Dixons
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:25:41      
      
        I have always accepted the “Apple Premium” but when you start talking about 4-6+ the price of a passable PC you are driving out even hardcore users
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:26:26      
      
        hehehe i still associate burbury with chavs Ewen  :P 
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:26:38      
      
        he must be young!
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:26:43      
      
        they will shoot themselves in the foot if they try that
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:27:02      
      
        I have been a Mac user for nearly 30 years
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:27:06      
      
        She has very nice eyes
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:27:17      
      
        Surface Studio isn’t in the UK yet
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:27:22      
      
        but those prices are driving me out of the “new Mac” market
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:27:57      
      
        This week, Apple Pro users have seriously looked at Microsoft offerings
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:28:04      
      
        and it took me a long time to keep trading up from 5 year old, to 4 year old, etc
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:28:17      
      
        till I finally could buy a new Mac
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:29:22      
      
        the bonus of CC for a business is exactly that Ewen
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:29:37      
      
        it sucks for home users
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:29:53      
      
        Serenak: you traded in your 5 year old for  a 4 year old?! O.o :P 
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:29:58      
      
        Just because it is large mullerbiker doesnt mean that it is powerful
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:30:08      
      
        the new MBP has a 2nd version “butterfly” keyboard
      
     
    
      
        WesFL
      
      
        20:30:10      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:30:12      
      
        but but but bigger is better batwench  
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:30:20      
      
        with more travel and a better feel - Jonny said so
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:30:28      
      
        Not the size of the pencil but how you write your name
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:30:39      
      
        Win 8 was pants Muller
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:30:40      
      
        Surface Studio will start at £3k, easy
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:30:53      
      
        8.1 was really 8.5 and was much better
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:30:56      
      
        Coming next week in place of the Mac Show...  'The Windows Show'
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:31:03      
      
        10 is the best they done in like “forever"
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        20:31:37      
      
        yes 8.1 was a step change and 10 is much better best elements of win7 and 8.1
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:32:08      
      
        and if there is one thing to really make it better it is Classic Shell
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:32:09      
      
        Surface Dial
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:32:26      
      
        brings back the real start meny
      
     
    
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:32:29      
      
        on the desk and on the screen
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:32:43      
      
        ewen you gonnag get the kids an nes classic? 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:32:49      
      
        the Dial immediately remined me of the Griffin one Ewen
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        20:33:13      
      
        no classic shell just get with the times and use it as is
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:33:24      
      
        the dial working on the screen is pretty impressive
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:33:27      
      
        I don’t like it as it is
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:33:42      
      
        that is the only part that still isn’t as good as it could be
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:34:01      
      
        Root beer is VIIIILLLLEEEEE
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:34:23      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:34:39      
      
        real root beer is the roxxor
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:34:52      
      
        it should taste like diluted Dettol :D
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        20:36:33      
      
        the best I love root beer, we are getting a lot of random ones in from the US here in the Uk are very good
      
     
    
      
        Ewen
      
      
        20:36:54      
      
        LOVE Root beer
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:37:27      
      
        Jeff came early!
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:37:37      
      
        but Ewen UK MPs never worked like that
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:37:59      
      
        once they are in it matters not a fsck what the constituency thinks
      
     
    
      
        JeffG
      
      
        20:38:03      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:40:23      
      
        Oh yes Ewen I 100% agree
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:42:24      
      
        not twot … twAT :P 
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:42:27      
      
        JeffG: Scone or Scone
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:42:42      
      
        hahhhhaahahah i do like a good cockwomble ;P
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:42:49      
      
        Mullerbiker: yes it is.
      
     
    
      
        JeffG
      
      
        20:42:51      
      
        English is so weird!
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        20:42:54      
      
        rhymes with gone
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:43:12      
      
        and around here in suffolk it may be used to mean to “hit”
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:43:13      
      
        Mullerbiker: its like using the c word that rhymes with hunt
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:43:29      
      
        as in you keep that up you will twat you one
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:43:36      
      
        Mullerbiker: why are you up in cumbria?
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:43:49      
      
        isn’t claptrap somebody who has a bad case of gonorrhea JeffG ? 
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:44:49      
      
        and learning new british swear words ladies and gentlemen is EXACTLY why I lke atching BTN :P 
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:44:56      
      
        roving or raving?
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        20:45:34      
      
        Serenak it does in essex and sometimes in Yorkshire
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:46:10      
      
        :( sorry for your loss ESA loss 
      
     
    
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:46:29      
      
        Ewen: have you heard about sleep? Its all the rage you know
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        20:46:40      
      
        Sheep?
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:46:47      
      
        oh you DID do the show this morning Ewen  dangit >_< I didn’t think you were gonna do it
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:47:48      
      
        that is very clever
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:47:56      
      
        wow XD 
      
     
    
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:48:53      
      
        Mullerbiker: Mr B has gotten himself a 950 
      
     
    
      
        campionuk
      
      
        20:48:57      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        campionuk
      
      
        20:49:04      
      
        which line @ewen ?
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:51:18      
      
        The Yorkshireman sketch?
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        20:51:28      
      
        when i were a lad
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:51:33      
      
        Mullerbiker: are they white stiletos?
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        20:51:47      
      
        no red to match me eyes
      
     
    
      
        paulums
      
      
        20:51:54      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:52:09      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:52:20      
      
        canyou wash your face normally Campion
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:52:24      
      
        I can do it free with two breeze blocks campionuk ...
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:52:45      
      
        oohhhhhhh the snipping conversation again :P 
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:52:59      
      
        also? NEVER trush batwench  with breezeblocks ;P 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:53:07      
      
        no its painful
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:53:31      
      
        you will get your fingers Batwench
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:53:50      
      
        BronwynECG: but its so much fun
      
     
    
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:54:30      
      
        After our third my doctor got the wife to have it done, result.
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:54:41      
      
        I have Merlot
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:54:57      
      
        Its bloodless apparenlty
      
     
    
      
        campionuk
      
      
        20:55:13      
      
        I don't bloody care @batwench !
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        20:55:29      
      
        Oh well. The offere is there lol
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:56:28      
      
        he’s been on Bart’s show,
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:56:29      
      
        sexy legs paulums !!!! \o/ :P 
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:56:45      
      
        Are @mullerbiker and @tioaboa joined at the hip? 😆
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        20:57:01      
      
        ianUK Yes
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:57:38      
      
        you take purty pictures though Ewen  :D 
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:57:45      
      
        but you are consistent! :D
      
     
    
      
        paulums
      
      
        20:57:46      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Gazmaz
      
      
        20:57:54      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        paulums
      
      
        20:57:55      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:57:59      
      
        stream is good and solid here
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        20:58:02      
      
        its ok here
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:58:02      
      
        no, all ok
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:58:06      
      
        audio is great 
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:58:28      
      
        All good here
      
     
    
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:58:30      
      
        tell wife to stop watching porn paulums  :D 
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        20:58:49      
      
        As beautiful as ever ewen
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        20:58:54      
      
        Wrighty’s 2nd porn server is spinning up!
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        20:59:03      
      
        Being in Cornwall I'm about 10 minutes behind but video and audio all good
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        20:59:42      
      
        ACTION drinking water out of a jar like the rest of my tribe :P 
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:00:01      
      
        I am on BLackcurrent and Apple Squash
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:00:04      
      
        you’ll be eating kale crisps next!!
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:00:11      
      
        Doom Bar here
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:00:11      
      
        Vimto!
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:00:19      
      
        paulums:  yay!!! my man….. I get my ginger ale out of a wineglass :P 
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        21:00:27      
      
        Cold Peroni
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:00:31      
      
        Ewen that is a lot - well done
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:00:39      
      
        good job Ewen  :D 
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:01:48      
      
        Wife has The Apprentice on, what a crock of shit
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:02:17      
      
        zander, zander, zander.....
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:02:46      
      
        I’ll give 110% Sir Alan! :D
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:03:00      
      
        Must have women drivers!
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:03:18      
      
        So not only do we fuck Earth up we are fucking Mars up as well
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:03:24      
      
        looks like a bloodblister
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:03:24      
      
        they found the Beagle 
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:03:58      
      
        IanUK:  on the other hand we DO own a planet full f robots :P 
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:04:05      
      
        Shit iPad is on 8% and no close socket
      
     
    
      
        SwampRat
      
      
        21:04:17      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:04:40      
      
        Gazmaz: is moving to cumbria!
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:04:44      
      
        Norfolk?
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:04:54      
      
        you'll be shredded
      
     
    
      
        paulums
      
      
        21:05:02      
      
        Deeppan no way
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:05:27      
      
        Gazmaz’s cool thing is a 10 meter dish to catch satellite internet? O.O 
      
     
    
    
      
        Gazmaz
      
      
        21:05:32      
      
        I’m just moving :)
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:06:02      
      
        JeffG:  you’re a bit blurry
      
     
    
      
        JeffG
      
      
        21:06:18      
      
        Must be the booze.
      
     
    
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:06:59      
      
        I wonder why none of the press mention that it isn’t a two party system in the US :D
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:07:41      
      
        gotta have a hobby!
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:07:43      
      
        DeepPan:  it’s not mentioned becase ther is effectlively only two party system. Any others are basically too miniscule to mention
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:07:45      
      
        DeepPan: isn’t against the US consitution to have just a 2 party system?
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:08:52      
      
        BronwynECG, maybe the others are perceved as miniscule because the media refuse to cover them
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:09:11      
      
        not sure if that’s even mentioned batwench but I really have to brush on my constitution. I haven’t read it since I was forced to do so in primary school
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:09:27      
      
        Paulums, did you give HotBoss full power for 4 minutes? :D
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:09:53      
      
        as I understand it the US has loads of parties, only its just 2 that run the shit show
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:09:54      
      
        Ewen we can still hear him, dont you worry
      
     
    
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:10:24      
      
        tweedledum & tweedle-even-dumber
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:10:28      
      
        oh btw Ewen  are e gonna get a sober guitar concert tonight? :P 
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:10:29      
      
        @mullerbiker is like a pro podcaster now
      
     
    
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:11:01      
      
        Mastodon.social
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:11:08      
      
        I like the micorsoft studio thing
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:11:14      
      
        I was impressed with the whole MS presentaton even if it felt more like an Apple event than the Apple Event
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:11:48      
      
        Mullerbiker: you need to go to the dr you have had that cough for a while now
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:12:50      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:13:01      
      
        it isn’t so much about touch… it is about the pen
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:13:07      
      
        I wouldn't want finger prints all over it
      
     
    
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:13:39      
      
        Show title 'Its the amount of times you got to wipe it clean'
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:13:46      
      
        Microsoft are looking at the niche and the top end, leave the mainstream to all the manufactures
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:13:54      
      
        former Indian wicketkeeper Farohk Engineer's father was a doctor. He was known as Dr Engineer.
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:14:01      
      
        it reminds me so much of the Cintiq
      
     
    
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:14:45      
      
        I think the 27inch Cintiq are about the same price as the Surface Studio
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:15:16      
      
        yeah but hte Cintiq needs a computer to go with it
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:15:19      
      
        Looks like CAD would be fun on it
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:15:58      
      
        it’s not being pitched as a consumer device as far as I can see
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:16:19      
      
        £1874 on Amazon for the 27 inch Cintiq
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:16:54      
      
        ok so that plus a passable iMac and possibly in the same bracket as the Studio
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:17:20      
      
        but Apple patented a fold down iMac and didn’t do it
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:17:46      
      
        Studio is nice, but is not meant as a mainstream PC
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:18:45      
      
        the “Table” was really the alpha testing for Surface
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:18:49      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:18:57      
      
        andI saw one and it was slick as a demo
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:19:04      
      
        Studio very much targeted at a specific set of niche audiences artists, designers, architects etc.  Not for the general audience.
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:19:18      
      
        Microsoft is getting their swagger back, which is great, some proper competition
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:19:25      
      
        I don’t think most of us think it was pitched that way
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:19:37      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:19:48      
      
        it was pitched as a machine for a subset of a nice
      
     
    
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:19:58      
      
        Surface Hub?
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:20:19      
      
        Everyone is impressed but who would buy?
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:20:27      
      
        I like windows 10 I havent had to swear at it too hard so far
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:21:27      
      
        I totally agree Batwench
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:22:21      
      
        I think the Studio 2 will be much more aimed at the general market
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:22:21      
      
        OK, peoples I must go.
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:22:28      
      
        The next time I need to get a tablet I am tempted to go towards a surface from an Ipad
      
     
    
      
        windrider
      
      
        21:22:28      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:22:34      
      
        about a £3k starting price in the UK at a guess
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:22:34      
      
        I would love one
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:23:15      
      
        but it will get cheaper… as tech always does
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:23:19      
      
        Definitely aspirational high end device, will have halo affect but Studio itself focussed on specific uses.
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:23:29      
      
        2016 the year @ewen went Canon to Sony and Apple to Microsoft 😂
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:23:43      
      
        Me I would
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:23:48      
      
        and the Studio is no different to any other new tch
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:24:27      
      
        Top Studio spec - Core i7, 2TB drive, 32GB ram, 4GB GPU - $4200
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:25:01      
      
        top MBP comes in similar price for lower spec
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:25:27      
      
        The number of people including @gazmaz even considering a Window machine is worrying for the Mac 😔
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        21:25:36      
      
        surface is an excellent device
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:25:39      
      
        yes IanUK
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:25:44      
      
        @jgamet fanboy
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:25:49      
      
        and I have been a Mac user 30 years
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:26:12      
      
        and I have to say for home I may have to consider moving to another platform for home
      
     
    
      
        Gazmaz
      
      
        21:26:14      
      
        My only issue is the admin on virus’s
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:27:01      
      
        SLAG!! :D
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:27:38      
      
        @deeppan is @ewen's bitch
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:28:02      
      
        for work I think I would definitely be considering a Studio, not so much for myself but for at least one other operator who does scan retouching etc
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:28:09      
      
        I would love one in our innovation Center where I am based at the moment. WOuld love it with our 3d scanner and printer set up
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:28:19      
      
        'Ive already asked her one' show title 😂
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:28:56      
      
        Ewen, you slag!! :D iMac price, same spec, $3400
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:29:10      
      
        @deeppan bargain!
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:29:13      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
    
      
        paulums
      
      
        21:30:09      
      
        batwench I kinda like it
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        21:30:17      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:30:37      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:31:34      
      
        only six more to go :D
      
     
    
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:32:11      
      
        Teams sounds very good
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:33:37      
      
        Slack for enterprise, and is already bundled in with Office365 subscriptions
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:33:54      
      
        Yammer is shit
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:34:06      
      
        Azuire?
      
     
    
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:34:47      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:35:51      
      
        Slack have got the hump because Microsoft wouldn’t pay the asking price for Slack
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:36:34      
      
        I love BTN slack
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:37:21      
      
        Teams is included in Office365 business licenses I think
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        21:40:35      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:40:43      
      
        I are already in the MS ecosystem Teams make sense
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:41:48      
      
        >> Joins the chat room
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:42:26      
      
        Does Teams do iOS/Android?
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:42:29      
      
        totally corret Ewen - I remember you saying it
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:42:38      
      
        and agreeing with you
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:43:05      
      
        email will stick about for “recordable communications”
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:43:09      
      
        Yes IanUK
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:43:36      
      
        Slack is for Teams
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:44:02      
      
        for recordable “informal” sharing
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:44:29      
      
        plus Slack or other similar are “instant” and open
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:44:34      
      
        I find the most useful tool for urgent commication is the voice, either in person or on the phone
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:44:34      
      
        Anyone tried Microsoft Flow.  IFTTT competitor also launched this week.
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:44:36      
      
        millennials in the workplace just don’t understand email, so never use it
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:45:28      
      
        thats a possible DeepPan - we are all over a “certain age” in my org bar 2 guys
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        21:46:12      
      
        good point deeppan
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:46:20      
      
        same here Serenak, I set up Slack in my workspace, died on it’s arse! :D
      
     
    
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:46:55      
      
        Not sure about that Ewen  MOD have just bought 250,000 Office 365 accounts.
      
     
    
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:48:12      
      
        Does it burn?
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:48:15      
      
        SHOW TITLE railway mate 9 :P 
      
     
    
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        21:48:27      
      
        now this is cheaper
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:48:45      
      
        I think the Pixel will get most of the Samsung sales now
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:48:45      
      
        Office 365 has more info assurance and audit trail features than are available on on premises versions of Windows/Office.
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        21:49:34      
      
        SHOW TITLE Google can’t fill a hole :P 
      
     
    
      
        SwampRat
      
      
        21:49:53      
      
        So Google has small hands?
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:50:22      
      
        agree mrbatchwench, a lot of central gov departments are getting on office365 and azure in a big way, especially now microsoft has openned UK Azure datacentres
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:51:08      
      
        I think they are starting to take the piss to be fair
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:51:30      
      
        the amount of “increase in value” is getting smaller
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:51:44      
      
        it is the same old “good enough” argument
      
     
    
      
        IanUK
      
      
        21:51:58      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:52:20      
      
        Will the factories for these new phones be getting investigated for working conditions and child labour, or just Apple? ;)
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:52:25      
      
        I am not going up from my 6 to a 7 - can’t justify the increase in monthly charge…
      
     
    
      
        SwampRat
      
      
        21:52:39      
      
        My $15 LG flip phone is still good enough for me
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:52:44      
      
        I may keep my contract up by going for a 6S
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:53:27      
      
        A lot of people want a decent phones with bells and whitsles but dont want an apple phone
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:53:49      
      
        too bad it’s android
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        21:54:11      
      
        DeepPan: I like my android. But I still love Windows
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:54:19      
      
        the biggest beef I have from Android is that they get “pissy” about what can do where
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:54:33      
      
        between inside storage and the card
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:54:40      
      
        I’m not afraid of leaving apple, would take Windows Phone over android every day
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:55:02      
      
        unfortunately I like Windows Phone, but the apps are lacking
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:55:05      
      
        UK data centres a really big move for Microsoft DeepPan
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:55:41      
      
        and my kids wanted Windows phones but soon became disaffected due to lack of apps
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:55:45      
      
        yep, mrbatwench, the MOD thought so the day of the UK datacentre annoucements :)
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:56:14      
      
        if don’t need many apps then Windows will cover you
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        21:56:32      
      
        but if you like your apps its a bust
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        21:56:34      
      
        I suspect there will be a lot more following MOD DeepPan
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        21:56:43      
      
        defintely
      
     
    
    
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        21:59:57      
      
        xioami phones
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:00:04      
      
        in the end I will stay with iPhone for now, but I have to say apart from keeping my contract moving I have no reason to move from 6
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:00:28      
      
        and my wife and kids are looking for their hand me downs
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        22:01:25      
      
        << Leaves the chat room
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:01:28      
      
        balls it has nothing to do with Facebook “protecting users” it has everything to do with FB wanting to sell that info
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:01:36      
      
        not have users giving it away
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        22:03:13      
      
        I’ve heard of some places, if you apply for a job with them, they ask to view all your social media feeds and use that to asses your suitability
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        22:03:20      
      
        Jack sounds like Mr Batwench!
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:03:29      
      
        Jack’s a good kid Ewen  :P 
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        22:04:20      
      
        Which insurance company advertises the phone app to help lower your insurance?
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:04:29      
      
        aarrrgggghhhhhhhh why does itunes keep bugging me with this firewall warning?!??!?!?!?!? >_< 
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:04:45      
      
        but that actually just measures your driving
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        22:04:58      
      
        yep, thanks
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:05:24      
      
        acceleration, braking, turning forces
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:06:33      
      
        an app or even a gps box is OK
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:06:53      
      
        watching your FB - no that is too much
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:07:34      
      
        I had a weir email address when I first got email. SO SO happy I got rid of it....
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:07:45      
      
        what like my customer “mafia-momma”
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        22:08:43      
      
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        Serenak
      
      
        22:09:14      
      
        the “thought police are already watching”
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        22:09:25      
      
        We can’t take any photos on site anywhere
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:09:57      
      
        and that is fine Batwench - that is their space
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:10:15      
      
        The only thing companies I’ve worked for ever said about social media was not to do it when I’m on the clock
      
     
    
      
        batwench
      
      
        22:10:16      
      
        Serenak: I have no problems I work at Sellafield :-O)
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:10:22      
      
        but they can’t watch your personal spaces to see if you say you hate your job
      
     
    
    
    
    
      
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        22:13:35      
      
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        SwampRat
      
      
        22:13:54      
      
        JeffG looks like he's in Witness Protection
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:14:15      
      
        its basically the equivalent of stripmining
      
     
    
      
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        Serenak
      
      
        22:15:04      
      
        rip the shit out and take it for what you can get
      
     
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:16:12      
      
        besides there is evidence that “smokestack” ecosystems have some very special and not understood properties
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:16:28      
      
        and potentials to help us fix pollution
      
     
    
      
        mrbatwench
      
      
        22:16:47      
      
        Nooooooooooooo!
      
     
    
      
        DeepPan
      
      
        22:17:03      
      
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        batwench
      
      
        22:17:40      
      
        Would anyone mind if I went to bed, I am blinking knackerdf
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:17:48      
      
        IoT has the potential to be the “real life” Zombie Apocalypse
      
     
    
      
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        Gazmaz
      
      
        22:17:58      
      
        Sleep tight Batwench :)
      
     
    
      
        SwampRat
      
      
        22:18:23      
      
        Only wireless signal my 1998 Ford Ranger can receive is for the AM/FM radio
      
     
    
      
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        Serenak
      
      
        22:19:36      
      
        wouldn’t be hard for the steering to be like the gearbox…
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:20:07      
      
        SwampRat:  heh :D 
      
     
    
      
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        campionuk
      
      
        22:21:41      
      
        @tiaboa can you repost that link mate...
      
     
    
    
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:22:29      
      
        not perfect but it can at least give you a little piece of mind
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:23:08      
      
        peace even
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:24:15      
      
        why do they all look like those bloody Air Freshener devices?
      
     
    
      
        Gazmaz
      
      
        22:24:35      
      
        Same designer 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:24:55      
      
        too right Gazmaz
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:25:22      
      
        look like they should be giving out a nice smell
      
     
    
      
        Gazmaz
      
      
        22:25:42      
      
        ummmm echo lovely 
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        22:26:12      
      
        Not only amazon but who else can be listening
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:27:34      
      
        or like Gruber now uses “Yo, Dingus”
      
     
    
      
        SwampRat
      
      
        22:27:59      
      
        I have no plans to buy a voice activated device.
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:28:37      
      
        I don’t really use Siri or any other voice activated devide
      
     
    
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        22:29:32      
      
        DONT CLINK ON BronywnECG links!
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:29:33      
      
        btw anyone read the my neighbour got into my house by shouting out “Hey Siri, unlock the front door”
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:29:37      
      
        hah :D 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:29:53      
      
        and it opened my smart lock?
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:30:47      
      
        Fareham PO16 0UT, United Kingdom
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:31:05      
      
        SHOW TITLE things SIri says :P 
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:31:23      
      
        hahhaahhahahahahhhhaahahahahhhahaha :D 
      
     
    
      
        Gazmaz
      
      
        22:32:21      
      
        Fareham PO16 0UT is the show title
      
     
    
    
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        22:36:51      
      
        Not avaliable in my area :(
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:44:22      
      
        but who keeps their backpack on their back on a crowded subway? my years of living in NYC has trained me quite painfully to not leave it on my back….
      
     
    
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:46:07      
      
        whoops
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:46:31      
      
        ACTION shreads all passwords written on papaer 
      
     
    
      
        tioaboa
      
      
        22:47:50      
      
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        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:51:48      
      
        I don’t have the patience to play civilization. Not shooty enough
      
     
    
      
        Mullerbiker
      
      
        22:53:11      
      
        but the war is brutal…. i nuked us last night ;)
      
     
    
      
        Gazmaz
      
      
        22:55:05      
      
        C’ya Folks :)
      
     
    
      
        Gazmaz
      
      
        22:55:10      
      
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        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:55:11      
      
        later Gazmaz  :) 
      
     
    
      
        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:57:49      
      
        later JeffG 
      
     
    
      
        Serenak
      
      
        22:57:49      
      
        adios all
      
     
    
      
        JeffG
      
      
        22:57:54      
      
        bye, gang!
      
     
    
      
        Majikman
      
      
        22:57:59      
      
        Good show tonight guys, night to all, night to chat room
      
     
    
      
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        BronwynECG
      
      
        22:58:06      
      
        ACTION hugs Ewen 
      
     
    
      
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