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JackieHern
1:49:37
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taxi_cab
2:49:07
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JackieHern
3:38:24
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JackieHern
6:32:58
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mullerbiker
12:47:39
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mullerbiker
12:50:11
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GBRedneck
16:17:50
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maccast
17:52:32
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maccast
17:59:43
Did I miss a memo?
DocRock
18:02:28
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DocRock
18:03:53
maccast where is the host?
maccast
18:04:07
They went on DST last week
maccast
18:04:15
We're on in an hour
DocRock
18:04:24
Great
maccast
18:05:15
I'm guessing their down at the pub. Bunch of toss pots.
Guest44
18:05:20
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maccast
18:05:33
;)
GBRedneck
18:12:45
wheres ewen shouldn't he be in the channel?
maccast
18:13:41
They went on DST last week. So we're in the time warp this week
GBRedneck
18:13:58
aah its not a live show Doh!!!
maccast
18:14:27
All will be right with the continuum next week, but for now the show is an hour later.
GBRedneck
18:19:04
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BronwynECG
18:33:26
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DeepPan
18:36:01
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DeepPan
18:36:54
Evening all
DeepPan
18:37:39
Going by who’s in here, has there been some confusion over the switch from BST back to GMT? ;)
db
18:43:58
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tioaboa
18:44:46
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mullerbiker
18:45:11
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mullerbiker
18:45:36
Hello everybody
Serenak
18:46:28
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DocRock
18:47:28
Clock adjusting is just ignorant on all accounts. As time is conceptual any way there should only be one global clock and we all just adjust our vocab to match
db
18:48:25
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tioaboa
18:48:49
Hello all
WesFL
18:49:40
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Serenak
18:49:49
you are up and live
Serenak
18:49:59
sound is good
Serenak
18:52:09
yes
Ewen
18:52:20
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BronwynECG
18:52:34
nobody in here but us chickens :P
BronwynECG
18:52:42
awwwwwwwwww my hugs are always free Ewen
BronwynECG
18:52:44
:)
BronwynECG
18:53:32
oh BTW Ewen sorry to hear about your car.....
patrice
18:57:27
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DeepPan
18:57:30
evening all
Guest44
18:58:51
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maccast
18:59:34
evening @deeppan
DeepPan
19:00:19
We are allowed to mess around with the time, as it’s all based from here :D
DeepPan
19:01:18
back in your box muller! :D
Majikman
19:01:47
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Majikman
19:02:10
Evening all
mullerbiker
19:02:47
DeepPan: noone puts mullerbiker in a box
windrider
19:03:02
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DeepPan
19:03:27
muller quoting DIrty Dancing :D :D :D
DeepPan
19:03:49
end of the 2nd quarter Doc? ;)
DeepPan
19:04:42
Battle of Britain? :D
patrice
19:05:50
More like Patrice’s Grand Tour
DeepPan
19:06:42
So, the Touch Bar. Sounds like a pub Muller would go to ;)
IanUK
19:06:43
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IanUK
19:06:53
Evening all
IanUK
19:07:23
It wasn't the keynote that was the problem, it was what was not said
IanUK
19:07:38
Exactly @maccast
IanUK
19:10:20
No SD reader, no displayport, no ethernet. Dongle city. Not pro
DeepPan
19:10:28
If the TouchBar is the way forward and getting rid of function keys, in Apple’s mind, why offer a version of the MacBook Pro without the TouchBar and with function keys?
windrider
19:11:17
Apple has reduced the price of RAM upgrades.
tioaboa
19:11:22
agreed and limited to 16GB
IanUK
19:11:24
Does @docrock support Man U by any chance? 😂
DeepPan
19:12:07
Is this latest MacBook Pro just Apple going into a “holding pattern”, getting ready to switch desktops & laptops away from Intel and onto there own A Chips?
IanUK
19:13:36
Touch Bar is cool tech, but why put a 2x larger trackpad in? Ergonomics are all wrong as @ewen has already stated
WesFL
19:14:54
The new Mac Pro is prosumer.
windrider
19:15:00
Will there be a TouchBar-equipped Apple keyboard?
IanUK
19:15:34
@ewen has a holo chest 😂
Majikman
19:16:55
Isn't there a limit to how battery power can be put into a laptop?
Mullerbiker_
19:17:02
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Majikman
19:17:07
How much
Mullerbiker_
19:17:24
1 billliiiiooooonnnnn pounds
IanUK
19:17:31
@majkiman until it explodes?
Majikman
19:17:43
Ala samsung
IanUK
19:17:44
😂
patrice
19:18:04
Majikman: Well.. if you increase the size.. not really
patrice
19:18:14
At some point it gets less mobile though ;)
Majikman
19:19:09
I thought I heard there is a limit to the amount of power in a laptop you can take on a plane
IanUK
19:19:56
We have a W chip, T chip, just need an F chip and we have WTF
Ewen
19:20:51
Laptoop batteries are limiiited to 100Watt Hours - http://www.britishairways.com/cms/global/pdfs/lithium_battery.pdf
IanUK
19:20:55
@patrice that is you though. I use SD, ethernet, USB, displayport
IanUK
19:20:58
Fuck dongles
DeepPan
19:20:59
I think the FAA have a milliamp/hour limit on batteries it’ll allow on any flight, which is starting to hit on what can go into a laptop. You could put faster CPU and GPU, more memory, but with the battery limit you could only run it for a couple of hours on battery only
windrider
19:21:08
patrice
19:21:13
I know Ian.. but you’re definitely a minority.
mullerbiker
19:21:13
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patrice
19:21:26
I use an external card reader (because CF)
Ewen
19:22:48
See above Deeppan
DeepPan
19:23:20
Thanks Ewen, saw that just as I hit “send” :)
Majikman
19:23:42
In all my life never snagged a power cable and pulled any laptop of the table/desk
BronwynECG
19:25:32
Apple os DOOOOOOOOMMEDDDD!! :P
windrider
19:27:05
IanUK
19:27:16
MagSafe was taking too much room up for Jony 'slim it down' Ive
DeepPan
19:27:21
And a headphone jack in it!!! :D :D
Mullerbiker
19:28:05
Just Grease your lightning cable :)
IanUK
19:28:33
No @tiioaboa don't forget FireWire!
Mullerbiker
19:28:35
I hear apple is going to [hase out the display and keyboard
windrider
19:28:41
Lightning came out before USB-C was ready for the market
IanUK
19:28:51
So how long before iPhone goes Thunderbolt?
DeepPan
19:29:01
Nothing wrong with RS-232! :D
windrider
19:29:28
My older Macs use semaphore to connect......
Majikman
19:29:56
When it first came out the magsafe was called a gimmick
DeepPan
19:30:10
You can only hear the startup bong through your new Ear Pods. Oh, wait …. :D
BronwynECG
19:30:19
I love the bong!! :P
Serenak
19:30:20
MagSafe is indeed the best mobile tech ever made :D
Mullerbiker
19:30:25
Someone has kidnapped Ewen he taking about bongs and had chicken and chips in he kismit WTF
BronwynECG
19:30:29
ACTION inhales XD 
Serenak
19:30:34
and the Chime/Bong can be turned back on
DeepPan
19:30:51
Moron Line Orders?
Majikman
19:31:01
Oh sarcasm Ewen
windrider
19:31:30
Sorry, wrong link
IanUK
19:31:36
'Courage'
windrider
19:32:07
therapist vs the rapist
WesFL
19:33:33
it takes 'Courage' to buy one
IanUK
19:33:35
@ewen iMovie on your phone 😂
IanUK
19:33:44
@WesFL lol
Majikman
19:33:59
2 grand is the new 1 grand
DeepPan
19:34:07
They’ll have to introduce a $999 base MacBook, not sure how low they’d have to make the specs though
tioaboa
19:34:23
entry level machine is a ridiculous price!
IanUK
19:34:37
We aren't going to help year on year decline in Mac sales if they are pricing people out of the market
IanUK
19:34:56
And it won't be iPads they are buying it will be Windows laptops
Mullerbiker
19:35:15
Can I have an 8 bit apple laptop?
IanUK
19:35:41
They gave you more colours that you can't even print
WesFL
19:35:51
@ewen it's now space gray - surely worth 3000
tioaboa
19:35:54
entry level machine is the air now
DeepPan
19:36:28
Air is on a stock wind down now
tioaboa
19:36:58
oh well on the upside keeps our old models values up
windrider
19:38:11
IBM is spending less on IT since switching to Mac
IanUK
19:38:41
The offering is a very under powered MacBook or the MBP and nothing in between (in terms of pricing)
Mullerbiker
19:39:28
£2700 for 15 inch macbook …..
IanUK
19:39:39
I'll take 2
batwench
19:39:58
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Serenak
19:40:15
as I said in slackroom - and no this isn’t Apples to Aoples
windrider
19:40:20
The entry-level TouchBar 13-inch MBP in Oz is $3119.
DeepPan
19:40:42
I think this week, a lot of long term, professional Mac users are taking a look at Microsofts offerings seriously
patrice
19:40:43
:O
Serenak
19:40:48
but a decent(ish) HP Elitebook refurb can be had for £300
tioaboa
19:40:49
4 grand if you select every option! 2TB SSD is £1000!
patrice
19:40:57
@DeepPan Nope
batwench
19:41:05
Does DocRock realise that his outfitr makes him look like a christmas elf?
Serenak
19:41:07
that is 1/6 or less of a new MBP
DeepPan
19:41:17
Patrice yep
tioaboa
19:41:19
@serenak indeed get a corporate one bombproof
IanUK
19:41:20
@batwench lol
Majikman
19:41:24
But to move to a cheaper would cost me thousands of pounds in new software
Serenak
19:41:58
depends on what software you use or rely on
Mullerbiker
19:42:24
Microsoft is copying a little bit!
Majikman
19:42:28
How do you know ewen the 7 and the touch bar are just out
windrider
19:42:46
Take the new 15-in MBP & max it out, the price in Oz is $6649
IanUK
19:42:52
Apple haven't surprised for a long time
Serenak
19:42:57
not saying that I would change - but I can no longer really rationalise the “premium"
IanUK
19:43:02
Apple Pencil maybe
Majikman
19:43:13
Air pods
Serenak
19:43:49
when a Macbook was maybe 2x the price of a midrange PC laptop I could justify it in TCO and resale and longevity
Serenak
19:43:53
but 6x?
tioaboa
19:44:27
gigner beer for the win
windrider
19:44:33
batwench, LOL
tioaboa
19:44:36
*ginger
IanUK
19:44:42
Tim's favourite line over the last few years 'we're very excited about our product pipeline.' Still waiting Tim...
batwench
19:45:14
I can’t believe that they are going $ for £ on the new kit. not impressed.
batwench
19:45:38
Ewen we would have never have guessed
BronwynECG
19:45:45
Okay I
BronwynECG
19:45:59
Okay I’m back. SHow can start now :P
WesFL
19:46:24
lol
patrice
19:47:17
well batwench That’s the Brexit for you :P
batwench
19:47:41
patrice: may not happen. have you seen the UK news about the court ruling?
BronwynECG
19:47:51
yep tioaboa ginger beer is great
Majikman
19:47:56
Maybe we've reach a plateau and an optimum design with most tech. Do you remember all the weird shaped phones and laptops just too be different
WesFL
19:48:23
people with lots of $$$
patrice
19:48:23
@batwench Doewsn’t matter. The pound suffered because of it
Serenak
19:48:36
no the 20% is Brexit/Slumped Sterling - Apple still jacked the prices by 25-35%
tioaboa
19:48:40
majikman maybe your right
batwench
19:48:47
patrice: even though it has gone up today but it is still borked for a while
patrice
19:48:56
@Serenak Yes.. but world wide. Not just the UK
Majikman
19:49:07
But batwench, if you take out the VAT then UK base prices are slightly less then US prices
Mullerbiker
19:49:18
Fenebahe 2 Manure O 89th minute
BronwynECG
19:49:21
wow 600 GB O.O
windrider
19:49:21
Pro stitute....
batwench
19:49:27
Slightly yes but for how long?
patrice
19:49:44
Until the pound recovers
DocRock
19:49:50
windrider Right
Majikman
19:49:57
Well as the dollar rate gets better the even cheaper
Majikman
19:50:31
Im sharing your pain Doc
windrider
19:50:31
A friend called himself a professional boxer years ago: his job was to assemble wooden boxes
Serenak
19:50:58
I can’t speak for anywhere else Patrice - but Apple hiked the prices over the previous models by around 30%
Serenak
19:51:33
any extra the UK pays in exchange rates is not what I am talking about
patrice
19:51:37
@Serenak I know. ANd that’s because the pound is weaker now. Apple just waited a while
patrice
19:52:10
The new models are more expensive anywhere… and we were just talking about that
Serenak
19:52:48
I think my stream is running behind...
IanUK
19:52:56
I would argue MBP okay for photography, not for video
windrider
19:53:03
MacBook Pro or MacBook Con?
batwench
19:53:10
While I am more a Argos £20 watch kind of girl :-)
IanUK
19:53:39
Apple have stopped being for geeks and more for fashion?
patrice
19:53:45
IanUK: ANd I would disagree. Plenty of pros do video on their MBP
IanUK
19:54:02
@patrice yes by waiting
patrice
19:54:33
Not much… I can tell you there’s plenty of other stuff you have to do.
DeepPan
19:54:37
is that sent by Greenie?
IanUK
19:55:05
Graeme from a couple of weeks okay needs to be the new Greenie
batwench
19:55:24
I would really not want you lot to wear your pants on the outside
DocRock
19:55:26
sent by Sylvain Distin?
Mullerbiker
19:55:39
2 - 1 94 min
windrider
19:56:27
But, but, it is the spring now!
IanUK
19:57:40
Who is going to pick the new MBP as their cool thing? 😂
batwench
19:58:40
IanUK: if someone was going to give me a new one I would accept it but my lal MBair is still giving me lots of joy
IanUK
19:59:37
@batwench I was hoping for an iMac update so I held off. The BTO option iMac I was looking at is now £400 more so Apple can go do one. I'll just have too stick with my late 2011 MBP
windrider
20:00:02
I picked up an ex-Apple executive 2014 MacBook Air in April. It had the i7 processor, 512 GB SSD & 8 GB of RAM, at quite a good price.
batwench
20:00:06
IanUK: Have you looked at the refrubished section?
IanUK
20:00:22
@batwench haven't actually, good shout
maccast
20:00:34
IanUK
20:00:36
I'm anti Apple at the moment though 😂
batwench
20:00:37
That was my good idea of the day
windrider
20:01:03
In a few hours, I'm heading out to collect a 128 GB refurbished iPod Touch
batwench
20:01:30
windrider: you buying it?
windrider
20:02:03
batwench, I bought it online from Apple on Sunday
batwench
20:02:12
Nice
patrice
20:02:19
@IanUK We didn’t notice :P
IanUK
20:02:34
@ewen has auto updates on just to do away with Apple's 'subtle' update notifications
IanUK
20:02:40
@patrice lol
Ewen
20:02:54
IN one IanUK
windrider
20:03:03
batwench, nice indeed: same warranty as new, with new battery, rear cover & accessories & $90 less than new
batwench
20:03:11
Can you imagine the ads that would arrive for Trumps ‘locker room banter’ chats!!!!
BronwynECG
20:03:19
the yook? O.o really?
patrice
20:03:21
batwench
20:03:22
windrider: that last bit was the best bit
batwench
20:04:26
Bioshock2 is on sale in UK app store at the moment £3.99
batwench
20:06:08
I dind the best thing that a key board can do is type
DocRock
20:06:23
Karabiner does not work on macOS Sierra at the moment.
windrider
20:06:39
Karabiner does not work on macOS Sierra at the moment.
IanUK
20:06:49
Echo echo
windrider
20:07:57
TechTool Pro 9 is not yet Sierra compatible either
IanUK
20:08:50
@ewen stops crap getting into port as well then
batwench
20:09:08
IanUK: that is a very good point
Majikman
20:10:04
Is that cable available with USB-C?
windrider
20:10:31
6S, 6S+, SE, 7 & 7+ have the always on Siri thingie
batwench
20:11:58
ewen i thought wrighty was your booker?
IanUK
20:12:33
Everyone is welcome unless you had an argument with @ewen on Twitter 😂
IanUK
20:12:57
Great show, thanks guys
BronwynECG
20:12:59
Ewen: apparently GoPro stock has stopped trading O.O
Majikman
20:13:11
If your in London pop into LMUG meeting @patrice
windrider
20:13:25
I first met Ewen on Twitter WITH an argument!
IanUK
20:13:41
@windrider lol
patrice
20:13:44
@Majikman Definitely. When & where?
DeepPan
20:13:51
We know how Doc pays for the pizza delivery too :D
batwench
20:13:57
windrider: you first met a lot of people with an arguement
windrider
20:14:12
shut up, buttwench!
maccast
20:14:17
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DeepPan
20:14:39
Doc’s got a hole in the deepend that needs plugging :D
batwench
20:14:40
windrider: you come across one of these?
Majikman
20:14:41
Maybe we'll all have to come out to see you @maccast
Majikman
20:14:55
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windrider
20:15:08
nope
Majikman
20:15:11
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DeepPan
20:15:14
The Microsoft Show?
BronwynECG
20:15:29
batwench: noooooooooooooooooppppppppppeeeeeee I AM NOT clicking that link
windrider
20:15:29
MacFarts
IanUK
20:15:35
Lol
BronwynECG
20:15:51
Ewen: the show all about tchotckes :P
batwench
20:15:55
BronwynECG: she is lovely
Majikman
20:16:19
See ya DocRock
BronwynECG
20:16:22
batwench: I’m already scared of going to Australia cause of spiders
tioaboa
20:16:23
ahhhh nooo
BronwynECG
20:16:38
batwench: hell I won’t even go to NZ cause of australian spiders
batwench
20:16:41
BronwynECG: I wore Dr Martins the entire time I was there
Serenak
20:16:58
theyre scary but harmless
BronwynECG
20:17:05
sez you Serenak
Serenak
20:17:22
apparenlty the cause most harm by scaring people to have accidents
batwench
20:17:25
Serenak: well most are. I talk to the ones in our house. Mr B just screams like a girl
IanUK
20:17:39
Too long? If its good does it matteR?
windrider
20:17:47
there are 3500 species of spider in Oz. All are venomous to an extent.
DeepPan
20:17:53
If you don’t like spiders, you might not want to watch this https://youtu.be/wRQucp31n0c
BronwynECG
20:17:58
ACTION makes a face at Ewen 
patrice
20:18:50
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windrider
20:18:51
DeepPan: mobile mousetrap
Serenak
20:19:01
my friend is on hols in Oz and sent me photo of a Huntsman that appeared in her garden while she was out having a smoke
DeepPan
20:19:03
lol, yup
BronwynECG
20:20:10
ginger beer mmmmmmmm
Serenak
20:20:29
you know your Big shirt gives you a hole in the chest?
patrice
20:20:38
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Serenak
20:20:49
and don’t forget to change the show idennt
Serenak
20:20:54
iden’t
Serenak
20:21:04
ffs - ident
BronwynECG
20:21:41
hey imitate an american accent to get siri to work XD
IanUK
20:22:40
MacBook Air
Ewen
20:22:50
Name the last Apple Launch that they didnt fuck up?
Serenak
20:22:52
MacBook Pro retina?
Ewen
20:23:07
I went back to iPad Pro and then I remembered that the they fucked up the pencil
Ewen
20:23:23
I honestly cant remember the last launch that they didnt fuck up
BronwynECG
20:23:31
Ewen: every sing one after 1984 ;P
BronwynECG
20:23:39
single*
batwench
20:23:46
Who?
BronwynECG
20:23:54
christmas what year?
Serenak
20:24:00
or the Airs - not the original the ones they brought in at the bottom
batwench
20:24:02
never heard of her
Serenak
20:24:12
ex head of Burberry
BronwynECG
20:24:28
Angela Jean Ahrendts, DBE (born June 7, 1960) is an American businesswoman and the senior vice president of retail at Apple Inc.
batwench
20:24:30
Ewen: I trusy your links not Mullerbiker ‘s
Serenak
20:24:34
not sure - if she is then she needs to go
DeepPan
20:24:36
I bet she’s still doing a better job than that knob-end they got from Dixons
Serenak
20:25:41
I have always accepted the “Apple Premium” but when you start talking about 4-6+ the price of a passable PC you are driving out even hardcore users
BronwynECG
20:26:26
hehehe i still associate burbury with chavs Ewen :P
DeepPan
20:26:38
he must be young!
Serenak
20:26:43
they will shoot themselves in the foot if they try that
Serenak
20:27:02
I have been a Mac user for nearly 30 years
batwench
20:27:06
She has very nice eyes
DeepPan
20:27:17
Surface Studio isn’t in the UK yet
Serenak
20:27:22
but those prices are driving me out of the “new Mac” market
DeepPan
20:27:57
This week, Apple Pro users have seriously looked at Microsoft offerings
Serenak
20:28:04
and it took me a long time to keep trading up from 5 year old, to 4 year old, etc
Serenak
20:28:17
till I finally could buy a new Mac
Serenak
20:29:22
the bonus of CC for a business is exactly that Ewen
Serenak
20:29:37
it sucks for home users
BronwynECG
20:29:53
Serenak: you traded in your 5 year old for a 4 year old?! O.o :P
batwench
20:29:58
Just because it is large mullerbiker doesnt mean that it is powerful
Serenak
20:30:08
the new MBP has a 2nd version “butterfly” keyboard
WesFL
20:30:10
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BronwynECG
20:30:12
but but but bigger is better batwench
BronwynECG
20:30:18
:P
Serenak
20:30:20
with more travel and a better feel - Jonny said so
batwench
20:30:28
Not the size of the pencil but how you write your name
Serenak
20:30:31
Jony
Serenak
20:30:39
Win 8 was pants Muller
DeepPan
20:30:40
Surface Studio will start at £3k, easy
Serenak
20:30:53
8.1 was really 8.5 and was much better
IanUK
20:30:56
Coming next week in place of the Mac Show... 'The Windows Show'
Serenak
20:31:03
10 is the best they done in like “forever"
tioaboa
20:31:37
yes 8.1 was a step change and 10 is much better best elements of win7 and 8.1
Serenak
20:32:08
and if there is one thing to really make it better it is Classic Shell
DeepPan
20:32:09
Surface Dial
Serenak
20:32:26
brings back the real start meny
Serenak
20:32:29
menu
DeepPan
20:32:29
on the desk and on the screen
BronwynECG
20:32:43
ewen you gonnag get the kids an nes classic?
Serenak
20:32:49
the Dial immediately remined me of the Griffin one Ewen
tioaboa
20:33:13
no classic shell just get with the times and use it as is
DeepPan
20:33:24
the dial working on the screen is pretty impressive
Serenak
20:33:27
I don’t like it as it is
Serenak
20:33:42
that is the only part that still isn’t as good as it could be
batwench
20:34:01
Root beer is VIIIILLLLEEEEE
Majikman
20:34:23
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Serenak
20:34:39
real root beer is the roxxor
Serenak
20:34:52
it should taste like diluted Dettol :D
tioaboa
20:36:33
the best I love root beer, we are getting a lot of random ones in from the US here in the Uk are very good
Ewen
20:36:54
LOVE Root beer
batwench
20:37:27
Jeff came early!
Serenak
20:37:37
but Ewen UK MPs never worked like that
Serenak
20:37:59
once they are in it matters not a fsck what the constituency thinks
JeffG
20:38:03
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Serenak
20:40:23
Oh yes Ewen I 100% agree
BronwynECG
20:42:24
not twot … twAT :P
batwench
20:42:27
JeffG: Scone or Scone
BronwynECG
20:42:42
hahhhhaahahah i do like a good cockwomble ;P
batwench
20:42:49
Mullerbiker: yes it is.
JeffG
20:42:51
English is so weird!
tioaboa
20:42:54
rhymes with gone
Serenak
20:43:12
and around here in suffolk it may be used to mean to “hit”
batwench
20:43:13
Mullerbiker: its like using the c word that rhymes with hunt
Serenak
20:43:29
as in you keep that up you will twat you one
batwench
20:43:36
Mullerbiker: why are you up in cumbria?
BronwynECG
20:43:49
isn’t claptrap somebody who has a bad case of gonorrhea JeffG ?
BronwynECG
20:44:49
and learning new british swear words ladies and gentlemen is EXACTLY why I lke atching BTN :P
windrider
20:44:56
roving or raving?
tioaboa
20:45:34
Serenak it does in essex and sometimes in Yorkshire
BronwynECG
20:46:10
:( sorry for your loss ESA loss
BronwynECG
20:46:12
:P
batwench
20:46:29
Ewen: have you heard about sleep? Its all the rage you know
windrider
20:46:40
Sheep?
BronwynECG
20:46:47
oh you DID do the show this morning Ewen dangit >_< I didn’t think you were gonna do it
batwench
20:47:48
that is very clever
BronwynECG
20:47:56
wow XD
IanUK
20:48:09
LOL
batwench
20:48:53
Mullerbiker: Mr B has gotten himself a 950
campionuk
20:48:57
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campionuk
20:49:04
which line @ewen ?
DeepPan
20:51:18
The Yorkshireman sketch?
tioaboa
20:51:28
when i were a lad
batwench
20:51:33
Mullerbiker: are they white stiletos?
tioaboa
20:51:47
no red to match me eyes
paulums
20:51:54
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Majikman
20:52:09
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Serenak
20:52:20
canyou wash your face normally Campion
batwench
20:52:24
I can do it free with two breeze blocks campionuk ...
BronwynECG
20:52:45
oohhhhhhh the snipping conversation again :P
BronwynECG
20:52:59
also? NEVER trush batwench with breezeblocks ;P
Serenak
20:53:07
no its painful
Serenak
20:53:31
you will get your fingers Batwench
batwench
20:53:50
BronwynECG: but its so much fun
BronwynECG
20:54:06
Majikman
20:54:30
After our third my doctor got the wife to have it done, result.
Serenak
20:54:41
I have Merlot
batwench
20:54:57
Its bloodless apparenlty
campionuk
20:55:13
I don't bloody care @batwench !
batwench
20:55:29
Oh well. The offere is there lol
Serenak
20:56:28
he’s been on Bart’s show,
BronwynECG
20:56:29
sexy legs paulums !!!! \o/ :P
IanUK
20:56:45
Are @mullerbiker and @tioaboa joined at the hip? 😆
Mullerbiker
20:57:01
ianUK Yes
BronwynECG
20:57:38
you take purty pictures though Ewen :D
DeepPan
20:57:45
but you are consistent! :D
paulums
20:57:46
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Gazmaz
20:57:54
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paulums
20:57:55
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BronwynECG
20:57:59
stream is good and solid here
Serenak
20:58:02
its ok here
DeepPan
20:58:02
no, all ok
BronwynECG
20:58:06
audio is great
IanUK
20:58:28
All good here
windrider
20:58:29
is OK
BronwynECG
20:58:30
tell wife to stop watching porn paulums :D
Majikman
20:58:49
As beautiful as ever ewen
DeepPan
20:58:54
Wrighty’s 2nd porn server is spinning up!
IanUK
20:59:03
Being in Cornwall I'm about 10 minutes behind but video and audio all good
BronwynECG
20:59:42
ACTION drinking water out of a jar like the rest of my tribe :P 
batwench
21:00:01
I am on BLackcurrent and Apple Squash
DeepPan
21:00:04
you’ll be eating kale crisps next!!
IanUK
21:00:11
Doom Bar here
windrider
21:00:11
Vimto!
BronwynECG
21:00:19
paulums: yay!!! my man….. I get my ginger ale out of a wineglass :P
Majikman
21:00:27
Cold Peroni
batwench
21:00:31
Ewen that is a lot - well done
BronwynECG
21:00:39
good job Ewen :D
IanUK
21:01:48
Wife has The Apprentice on, what a crock of shit
windrider
21:02:17
zander, zander, zander.....
DeepPan
21:02:46
I’ll give 110% Sir Alan! :D
batwench
21:03:00
Must have women drivers!
IanUK
21:03:18
So not only do we fuck Earth up we are fucking Mars up as well
windrider
21:03:24
looks like a bloodblister
Serenak
21:03:24
they found the Beagle
BronwynECG
21:03:58
IanUK: on the other hand we DO own a planet full f robots :P
IanUK
21:04:05
Shit iPad is on 8% and no close socket
SwampRat
21:04:17
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batwench
21:04:40
Gazmaz: is moving to cumbria!
DeepPan
21:04:44
Norfolk?
windrider
21:04:54
you'll be shredded
paulums
21:05:02
Deeppan no way
BronwynECG
21:05:27
Gazmaz’s cool thing is a 10 meter dish to catch satellite internet? O.O
BronwynECG
21:05:29
:P
Gazmaz
21:05:32
I’m just moving :)
BronwynECG
21:06:02
JeffG: you’re a bit blurry
JeffG
21:06:18
Must be the booze.
BronwynECG
21:06:21
:D
DeepPan
21:06:59
I wonder why none of the press mention that it isn’t a two party system in the US :D
DeepPan
21:07:41
gotta have a hobby!
BronwynECG
21:07:43
DeepPan: it’s not mentioned becase ther is effectlively only two party system. Any others are basically too miniscule to mention
batwench
21:07:45
DeepPan: isn’t against the US consitution to have just a 2 party system?
DeepPan
21:08:52
BronwynECG, maybe the others are perceved as miniscule because the media refuse to cover them
BronwynECG
21:09:11
not sure if that’s even mentioned batwench but I really have to brush on my constitution. I haven’t read it since I was forced to do so in primary school
DeepPan
21:09:27
Paulums, did you give HotBoss full power for 4 minutes? :D
Serenak
21:09:53
as I understand it the US has loads of parties, only its just 2 that run the shit show
batwench
21:09:54
Ewen we can still hear him, dont you worry
windrider
21:10:24
tweedledum & tweedle-even-dumber
BronwynECG
21:10:28
oh btw Ewen are e gonna get a sober guitar concert tonight? :P
IanUK
21:10:29
@mullerbiker is like a pro podcaster now
windrider
21:11:01
Mastodon.social
batwench
21:11:08
I like the micorsoft studio thing
Serenak
21:11:14
I was impressed with the whole MS presentaton even if it felt more like an Apple event than the Apple Event
batwench
21:11:48
Mullerbiker: you need to go to the dr you have had that cough for a while now
mrbatwench
21:12:50
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Serenak
21:13:01
it isn’t so much about touch… it is about the pen
IanUK
21:13:07
I wouldn't want finger prints all over it
BronwynECG
21:13:22
GoPro’s stock tumbles with Fitbit as investors position ahead of earnings http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gopros-stock-tumbles-with-fitbit-as-investors-position-ahead-of-earnings-2016-11-03
IanUK
21:13:39
Show title 'Its the amount of times you got to wipe it clean'
DeepPan
21:13:46
Microsoft are looking at the niche and the top end, leave the mainstream to all the manufactures
windrider
21:13:54
former Indian wicketkeeper Farohk Engineer's father was a doctor. He was known as Dr Engineer.
Serenak
21:14:01
it reminds me so much of the Cintiq
BronwynECG
21:14:11
GoPro needs a very good holiday season after a disastrous third quarter http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/3/13512318/gopro-third-quarter-earnings-sales-fall-revenue
DeepPan
21:14:45
I think the 27inch Cintiq are about the same price as the Surface Studio
Serenak
21:15:16
yeah but hte Cintiq needs a computer to go with it
batwench
21:15:19
Looks like CAD would be fun on it
Serenak
21:15:58
it’s not being pitched as a consumer device as far as I can see
mrbatwench
21:16:19
£1874 on Amazon for the 27 inch Cintiq
Serenak
21:16:54
ok so that plus a passable iMac and possibly in the same bracket as the Studio
Serenak
21:17:20
but Apple patented a fold down iMac and didn’t do it
DeepPan
21:17:46
Studio is nice, but is not meant as a mainstream PC
Serenak
21:18:45
the “Table” was really the alpha testing for Surface
windrider
21:18:49
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Serenak
21:18:57
andI saw one and it was slick as a demo
mrbatwench
21:19:04
Studio very much targeted at a specific set of niche audiences artists, designers, architects etc. Not for the general audience.
DeepPan
21:19:18
Microsoft is getting their swagger back, which is great, some proper competition
Serenak
21:19:25
I don’t think most of us think it was pitched that way
windrider
21:19:37
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Serenak
21:19:48
it was pitched as a machine for a subset of a nice
Serenak
21:19:52
niche
DeepPan
21:19:58
Surface Hub?
IanUK
21:20:19
Everyone is impressed but who would buy?
batwench
21:20:27
I like windows 10 I havent had to swear at it too hard so far
Serenak
21:21:27
I totally agree Batwench
Serenak
21:22:21
I think the Studio 2 will be much more aimed at the general market
windrider
21:22:21
OK, peoples I must go.
batwench
21:22:28
The next time I need to get a tablet I am tempted to go towards a surface from an Ipad
windrider
21:22:28
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DeepPan
21:22:34
about a £3k starting price in the UK at a guess
batwench
21:22:34
I would love one
Serenak
21:23:15
but it will get cheaper… as tech always does
mrbatwench
21:23:19
Definitely aspirational high end device, will have halo affect but Studio itself focussed on specific uses.
IanUK
21:23:29
2016 the year @ewen went Canon to Sony and Apple to Microsoft 😂
batwench
21:23:43
Me I would
Serenak
21:23:48
and the Studio is no different to any other new tch
DeepPan
21:24:27
Top Studio spec - Core i7, 2TB drive, 32GB ram, 4GB GPU - $4200
Serenak
21:25:01
top MBP comes in similar price for lower spec
IanUK
21:25:27
The number of people including @gazmaz even considering a Window machine is worrying for the Mac 😔
tioaboa
21:25:36
surface is an excellent device
Serenak
21:25:39
yes IanUK
IanUK
21:25:44
@jgamet fanboy
IanUK
21:25:46
Lol
Serenak
21:25:49
and I have been a Mac user 30 years
Serenak
21:26:12
and I have to say for home I may have to consider moving to another platform for home
Gazmaz
21:26:14
My only issue is the admin on virus’s
DeepPan
21:27:01
SLAG!! :D
IanUK
21:27:38
@deeppan is @ewen's bitch
Serenak
21:28:02
for work I think I would definitely be considering a Studio, not so much for myself but for at least one other operator who does scan retouching etc
batwench
21:28:09
I would love one in our innovation Center where I am based at the moment. WOuld love it with our 3d scanner and printer set up
IanUK
21:28:19
'Ive already asked her one' show title 😂
DeepPan
21:28:56
Ewen, you slag!! :D iMac price, same spec, $3400
IanUK
21:29:10
@deeppan bargain!
mrbatwench
21:29:13
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batwench
21:29:49
paulums: what do you think of the 3d scanning app http://uk.businessinsider.com/microsoft-3d-scanning-smartphone-app-2016-10
paulums
21:30:09
batwench I kinda like it
patrice
21:30:17
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mrbatwench
21:30:37
>> Joins the chat room
DeepPan
21:31:34
only six more to go :D
DeepPan
21:32:11
Teams sounds very good
DeepPan
21:33:37
Slack for enterprise, and is already bundled in with Office365 subscriptions
IanUK
21:33:54
Yammer is shit
batwench
21:34:06
Azuire?
DeepPan
21:34:37
lol
mrbatwench
21:34:47
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DeepPan
21:35:51
Slack have got the hump because Microsoft wouldn’t pay the asking price for Slack
IanUK
21:36:34
I love BTN slack
DeepPan
21:37:21
Teams is included in Office365 business licenses I think
patrice
21:40:35
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IanUK
21:40:43
I are already in the MS ecosystem Teams make sense
mrbatwench
21:41:48
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IanUK
21:42:26
Does Teams do iOS/Android?
Serenak
21:42:29
totally corret Ewen - I remember you saying it
Serenak
21:42:38
and agreeing with you
Serenak
21:43:05
email will stick about for “recordable communications”
mrbatwench
21:43:09
Yes IanUK
Serenak
21:43:36
Slack is for Teams
Serenak
21:44:02
for recordable “informal” sharing
Serenak
21:44:29
plus Slack or other similar are “instant” and open
batwench
21:44:34
I find the most useful tool for urgent commication is the voice, either in person or on the phone
mrbatwench
21:44:34
Anyone tried Microsoft Flow. IFTTT competitor also launched this week.
DeepPan
21:44:36
millennials in the workplace just don’t understand email, so never use it
Serenak
21:45:28
thats a possible DeepPan - we are all over a “certain age” in my org bar 2 guys
tioaboa
21:46:12
good point deeppan
DeepPan
21:46:20
same here Serenak, I set up Slack in my workspace, died on it’s arse! :D
mrbatwench
21:46:55
Not sure about that Ewen MOD have just bought 250,000 Office 365 accounts.
DeepPan
21:48:12
Does it burn?
BronwynECG
21:48:15
SHOW TITLE railway mate 9 :P
Mullerbiker
21:48:27
now this is cheaper
DeepPan
21:48:45
I think the Pixel will get most of the Samsung sales now
mrbatwench
21:48:45
Office 365 has more info assurance and audit trail features than are available on on premises versions of Windows/Office.
BronwynECG
21:49:34
SHOW TITLE Google can’t fill a hole :P
SwampRat
21:49:53
So Google has small hands?
DeepPan
21:50:22
agree mrbatchwench, a lot of central gov departments are getting on office365 and azure in a big way, especially now microsoft has openned UK Azure datacentres
Serenak
21:51:08
I think they are starting to take the piss to be fair
Serenak
21:51:30
the amount of “increase in value” is getting smaller
Serenak
21:51:44
it is the same old “good enough” argument
IanUK
21:51:58
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DeepPan
21:52:20
Will the factories for these new phones be getting investigated for working conditions and child labour, or just Apple? ;)
Serenak
21:52:25
I am not going up from my 6 to a 7 - can’t justify the increase in monthly charge…
SwampRat
21:52:39
My $15 LG flip phone is still good enough for me
Serenak
21:52:44
I may keep my contract up by going for a 6S
batwench
21:53:27
A lot of people want a decent phones with bells and whitsles but dont want an apple phone
DeepPan
21:53:49
too bad it’s android
batwench
21:54:11
DeepPan: I like my android. But I still love Windows
Serenak
21:54:19
the biggest beef I have from Android is that they get “pissy” about what can do where
Serenak
21:54:33
between inside storage and the card
DeepPan
21:54:40
I’m not afraid of leaving apple, would take Windows Phone over android every day
Serenak
21:55:02
unfortunately I like Windows Phone, but the apps are lacking
mrbatwench
21:55:05
UK data centres a really big move for Microsoft DeepPan
Serenak
21:55:41
and my kids wanted Windows phones but soon became disaffected due to lack of apps
DeepPan
21:55:45
yep, mrbatwench, the MOD thought so the day of the UK datacentre annoucements :)
Serenak
21:56:14
if don’t need many apps then Windows will cover you
Serenak
21:56:32
but if you like your apps its a bust
mrbatwench
21:56:34
I suspect there will be a lot more following MOD DeepPan
DeepPan
21:56:43
defintely
tioaboa
21:59:48
tioaboa
21:59:57
xioami phones
Serenak
22:00:04
in the end I will stay with iPhone for now, but I have to say apart from keeping my contract moving I have no reason to move from 6
Serenak
22:00:28
and my wife and kids are looking for their hand me downs
mrbatwench
22:01:25
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Serenak
22:01:28
balls it has nothing to do with Facebook “protecting users” it has everything to do with FB wanting to sell that info
Serenak
22:01:36
not have users giving it away
DeepPan
22:03:13
I’ve heard of some places, if you apply for a job with them, they ask to view all your social media feeds and use that to asses your suitability
batwench
22:03:20
Jack sounds like Mr Batwench!
BronwynECG
22:03:29
Jack’s a good kid Ewen :P
DeepPan
22:04:20
Which insurance company advertises the phone app to help lower your insurance?
BronwynECG
22:04:29
aarrrgggghhhhhhhh why does itunes keep bugging me with this firewall warning?!??!?!?!?!? >_<
Serenak
22:04:31
Aviva
Serenak
22:04:45
but that actually just measures your driving
DeepPan
22:04:58
yep, thanks
Serenak
22:05:24
acceleration, braking, turning forces
Serenak
22:06:33
an app or even a gps box is OK
Serenak
22:06:53
watching your FB - no that is too much
BronwynECG
22:07:34
I had a weir email address when I first got email. SO SO happy I got rid of it....
Serenak
22:07:45
what like my customer “mafia-momma”
patrice
22:08:43
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Serenak
22:09:14
the “thought police are already watching”
batwench
22:09:25
We can’t take any photos on site anywhere
Serenak
22:09:57
and that is fine Batwench - that is their space
BronwynECG
22:10:15
The only thing companies I’ve worked for ever said about social media was not to do it when I’m on the clock
batwench
22:10:16
Serenak: I have no problems I work at Sellafield :-O)
Serenak
22:10:22
but they can’t watch your personal spaces to see if you say you hate your job
mrbatwench
22:13:35
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SwampRat
22:13:54
JeffG looks like he's in Witness Protection
Serenak
22:14:15
its basically the equivalent of stripmining
campionuk
22:14:19
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Serenak
22:15:04
rip the shit out and take it for what you can get
Serenak
22:16:12
besides there is evidence that “smokestack” ecosystems have some very special and not understood properties
Serenak
22:16:28
and potentials to help us fix pollution
mrbatwench
22:16:47
Nooooooooooooo!
DeepPan
22:17:03
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batwench
22:17:40
Would anyone mind if I went to bed, I am blinking knackerdf
Serenak
22:17:48
IoT has the potential to be the “real life” Zombie Apocalypse
campionuk
22:17:51
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Gazmaz
22:17:58
Sleep tight Batwench :)
SwampRat
22:18:23
Only wireless signal my 1998 Ford Ranger can receive is for the AM/FM radio
batwench
22:18:42
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Serenak
22:19:36
wouldn’t be hard for the steering to be like the gearbox…
BronwynECG
22:20:07
SwampRat: heh :D
mrbatwench
22:20:14
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campionuk
22:21:41
@tiaboa can you repost that link mate...
Serenak
22:22:29
not perfect but it can at least give you a little piece of mind
Serenak
22:23:08
peace even
Serenak
22:24:15
why do they all look like those bloody Air Freshener devices?
Gazmaz
22:24:35
Same designer
Serenak
22:24:55
too right Gazmaz
Serenak
22:25:22
look like they should be giving out a nice smell
Gazmaz
22:25:42
ummmm echo lovely
Majikman
22:26:12
Not only amazon but who else can be listening
Serenak
22:27:34
or like Gruber now uses “Yo, Dingus”
SwampRat
22:27:59
I have no plans to buy a voice activated device.
Serenak
22:28:37
I don’t really use Siri or any other voice activated devide
Mullerbiker
22:29:32
DONT CLINK ON BronywnECG links!
Serenak
22:29:33
btw anyone read the my neighbour got into my house by shouting out “Hey Siri, unlock the front door”
BronwynECG
22:29:37
hah :D
Serenak
22:29:53
and it opened my smart lock?
BronwynECG
22:30:47
Fareham PO16 0UT, United Kingdom
BronwynECG
22:31:05
SHOW TITLE things SIri says :P
BronwynECG
22:31:23
hahhaahhahahahahhhhaahahahahhhahaha :D
Gazmaz
22:32:21
Fareham PO16 0UT is the show title
campionuk
22:35:36
Mullerbiker
22:36:51
Not avaliable in my area :(
BronwynECG
22:44:22
but who keeps their backpack on their back on a crowded subway? my years of living in NYC has trained me quite painfully to not leave it on my back….
BronwynECG
22:46:07
whoops
BronwynECG
22:46:31
ACTION shreads all passwords written on papaer 
tioaboa
22:47:50
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Mullerbiker
22:50:50
BronwynECG
22:51:48
I don’t have the patience to play civilization. Not shooty enough
Mullerbiker
22:53:11
but the war is brutal…. i nuked us last night ;)
Gazmaz
22:55:05
C’ya Folks :)
Gazmaz
22:55:10
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BronwynECG
22:55:11
later Gazmaz :)
BronwynECG
22:57:49
later JeffG
Serenak
22:57:49
adios all
JeffG
22:57:54
bye, gang!
Majikman
22:57:59
Good show tonight guys, night to all, night to chat room
campionuk
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JeffG
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Ewen
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Serenak
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BronwynECG
22:58:06
ACTION hugs Ewen 
BronwynECG
22:58:21
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22:58:36
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August 14 2018 21:32:55