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        NotNozireV
      
      
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        I thought my goose was cooked for a moment
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
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        morning NotNozireV 
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:44:26      
      
        Good afternoon GBR
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        15:44:38      
      
        whats the plan for today?
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:45:06      
      
        lol that is a good question. I nearly fainted earlier today.
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        15:45:23      
      
        you ok now?
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        15:45:33      
      
        or you fainted when your xbox arrived?
      
     
    
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:45:44      
      
        No no no
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:46:03      
      
        This morning my computer restarted after an upgrade and logged me into a temp account, of course at the time I didnt know that
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:46:40      
      
        I thought Microsoft erased my computer and reinstalled the OS lol
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:46:57      
      
        Anyway, after googling a few things I fixed the problem
      
     
    
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:48:51      
      
        Has that ever happened to you?
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        15:49:12      
      
        what microsoft format my mac?
      
     
    
    
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:49:20      
      
        Funny
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        15:49:23      
      
        but i have heard similar things
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:49:57      
      
        It will freak you out if you're not aware of whats happening thats for sure
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        15:52:02      
      
        it would freak me out massively to see my mac boot up windows
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        15:52:34      
      
        did you get the xbox?
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:55:05      
      
        I did! I did!
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        15:55:37      
      
        In all its green boxy glory
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        16:00:00      
      
        fired it up yet?
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        16:00:15      
      
        i didnt see a friend request at lunchtime when i nipped on so assumed you'd disowned me
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        16:23:31      
      
        still there?
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        16:30:08      
      
        lol yes
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        16:30:19      
      
        I havent even opened it :/
      
     
    
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        17:21:48      
      
        self control
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        17:30:25      
      
        I know, I have the patience of a... guy with a lot of patience. :D
      
     
    
    
      
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        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:09:46      
      
        oi oi oi!
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:09:52      
      
        evenin
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:09:58      
      
        Good evening sir
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:11:22      
      
        whats happening have you done the great unboxing video for techdrama?
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:24:32      
      
        Wouldnt I be a bit late to the unboxing game?
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:25:07      
      
        Wait, that never stopped twit
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:25:10      
      
        I'll do it!
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:25:59      
      
        its never too late
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:26:12      
      
        got some new wireless TRV's for the heating system today
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:27:03      
      
        Home or for a client?
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:27:19      
      
        both really
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:27:28      
      
        Great
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:27:30      
      
        What do you think so far?
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
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        its one of the pieces of the puzzle thats stopped us being able to do installs in some customers houses, stragnely enough not many people want their ceilings taken down and their walls channelled out
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:28:04      
      
        they look neat
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:28:24      
      
        ew, I can imagine.
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:28:44      
      
        Loxone are releasing a whole raft of other products
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:28:54      
      
        that are going to be wireless
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:29:35      
      
        That's great. Besides wireless, what new features are they coming out with?
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:30:14      
      
        well most of the products as the range stands currently are hardwired
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:30:33      
      
        they are re-relaasing devices but without the wired bit
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:31:25      
      
        ah okay
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:31:54      
      
        the wireless TRV's are good for us, as they'll let us zone heating as necessary
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:33:41      
      
        How much do they typically cost in pounds?
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:33:55      
      
        or euros (I should know this stuff lol) 
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:34:12      
      
        i dont deal in euro's 
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:34:47      
      
        just starts to compare well with the equivalent honeywell devices
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:35:11      
      
        That's actually pretty cheap
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:36:27      
      
        How long have you been working on the smart house?
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:37:57      
      
        18 months
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
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        we've come a long way
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
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        Great
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
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        i didnt think it would be this way tbh
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
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        and we've made some mistakes along the way
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
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        Did you expect it to be this long or is this sort of like a hobby?
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
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        to be honest things are moving a lot slower than i expected, most importantly the money thing, its been an expensive couple of years
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
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        yup that is a pretty cool video
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
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        If I were to do an unboxing video, I would do it that way
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:47:42      
      
        What would you say is the most expensive part of the project so far? 
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:47:59      
      
        lighting
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:48:14      
      
        we spent over £2500 on downlighters and LED strip
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:49:11      
      
        ah, yes. LEDs are crazy expensive
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:49:48      
      
        the downlighters we bought were like $45 a piece
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:49:57      
      
        before tax
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:50:04      
      
        Yikes
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:50:10      
      
        10 year guarantuee
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:50:31      
      
        CFLs are the worst. Never liked them.
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:52:27      
      
        we have 44 of them
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:53:19      
      
        Yikes!
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:53:32      
      
        no dangly lights
      
     
    
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:53:53      
      
        True but but but 44 @ $45? lol
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:54:29      
      
        high end a) last longer, and b) look better
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:54:59      
      
        Hey, you work hard. You make a decent living so why not? 
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:55:10      
      
        we also demo the house to customers
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:55:17      
      
        might as well dogfood the stuff
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:55:22      
      
        ohhh smart
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:55:27      
      
        I didnt know that
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:55:39      
      
        yeah i have a whole config setup just for demo
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:55:57      
      
        does the stuff that looks cool, rather than what we actually use
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:55:59      
      
        So its not just sitting there, its making money. That is very smart.
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:56:02      
      
        which reminds me i must update it
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:56:21      
      
        BestBuy does the same thing with their TVs :D
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:57:23      
      
        i suppose so 
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:58:13      
      
        I do like BestBuy's business model, they use the stores as showrooms then sell excess unsold or display stock off on cowboom or by bulk to large scale resellers
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        19:58:28      
      
        And that's why they havent gone bankrupt
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:58:46      
      
        i often wonder how they stay in business
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        19:59:34      
      
        was always disappointed they didnt make it in the UK
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:00:27      
      
        I would imagine a bestbuy in the UK would be considerably smaller
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:00:55      
      
        they had some awesome stores easily as big as the ones in the US
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:01:06      
      
        btu there was too much competition
      
     
    
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:02:35      
      
        oooh okay
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:03:21      
      
        i must admit i love visiting best buys in the US when we come over
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:04:52      
      
        It is a fun place, I just cannot bring myself to play with those tablets that are on display there.  
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:04:54      
      
        ...So many germs.
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:05:18      
      
        i just find it refreshing to see tech out on display
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:05:33      
      
        too often we all just order blindly from the internet
      
     
    
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:05:56      
      
        That's one of the downsides of shopping at places like Amazon
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:06:05      
      
        You never get to see what you're getting
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:06:09      
      
        i try to buy as much locally as i can
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:06:14      
      
        not always that easy though :(
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:07:35      
      
        Taxes are a pain too :/
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:07:43      
      
        Atleast for me on certain items
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:07:48      
      
        see we dont have the same system here
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:08:05      
      
        every price you see in a store incldes VAT at 20%
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:08:25      
      
        its only trade deals that can be shown without the VAT
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:08:34      
      
        but yes tax is a pain in the arse
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:34:31      
      
        I really need to stop stepping on my fitbit scale every moring lol
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:35:07      
      
        I took 4 days off and BOOM gained 5 lbs
      
     
    
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:41:23      
      
        isnt that the normal price?
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:43:43      
      
        I have no idea, that's why I'm asking you lol
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:44:09      
      
        hehe, i think the whole package is amazing value for money
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:44:21      
      
        That's 1.95 a month
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:44:29      
      
        You said its usually $5 a month right?
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:44:39      
      
        $3 a month i thought
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:45:40      
      
        Ah a full year is $29.99
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:48:30      
      
        you unpacked it yet?
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:54:07      
      
        you patient people make me sick
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:54:12      
      
        lmao!
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:54:22      
      
        i'd have it unboxed with all the crap strewn around the house
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:54:57      
      
        Bah I have enough crap laying around. Damn weight set box
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:55:25      
      
        BTW, its not fun to put a 100lb weight set in a shopping cart
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:55:47      
      
        and then in the car
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:55:53      
      
        and than out of the car
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:55:56      
      
        then*
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:56:22      
      
        what are you doing wiht it?
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:56:47      
      
        Lifting it, bro *flexes*
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:57:36      
      
        ...appearantly since I'm lifting, I've got to call you "bro" for some reason
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:57:57      
      
        aah never done any weights
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:58:42      
      
        Trust it its hell, I wouldnt recommend it to anyone.
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:58:51      
      
        Jogging is better imo
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:58:55      
      
        walking/jogging
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        20:59:38      
      
        cycling is even better
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        20:59:47      
      
        Agreed
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:00:31      
      
        I like a little of running and cycling because a lot of times I'm just coasting on my bike
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:01:34      
      
        When I started being active many years ago I did not want to hurt myself or push myself over the limit
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:01:45      
      
        Even with these weights I'm doing it lightly
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:02:57      
      
        good idea
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:05:26      
      
        i should have been in tucson this week
      
     
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:05:29      
      
        gutted
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:05:34      
      
        missed a great Phancon
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:07:12      
      
        awww :(
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:07:45      
      
        I forgot I saw the Blue Angels 2 weeks ago. I need to upload those photos
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:08:20      
      
        I shall share tomorrow
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:08:31      
      
        cool i shall look forward to it
      
     
    
      
        patrice
      
      
        21:13:26      
      
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        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:18:07      
      
        i do have one question for you
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:18:11      
      
        if you are still there?
      
     
    
    
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:18:28      
      
        a serioues answer please
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:18:34      
      
        hahahahaha
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:18:53      
      
        ...No
      
     
    
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:19:30      
      
        That's great lol
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:21:17      
      
        I live near a great area where I can jog up an incline
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:21:40      
      
        I think there is 500ft elevation gain at some points
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:22:24      
      
        be good on the bike
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:22:37      
      
        That would kill me lol
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:23:32      
      
        I've been people doing it though but its not a pretty sight
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:24:04      
      
        hills are fun
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:25:55      
      
        they build character
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:27:31      
      
        BTW if you ever decide to go biking along the coast in Orange County, watch for the kids. For some reason they love to run across the busy bike path without looking lol. 
      
     
    
      
        NotNozireV
      
      
        21:27:35      
      
        Thankfully I've never had any close calls but I've seen a few.
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:28:41      
      
        thats kids
      
     
    
      
        GBRedneck
      
      
        21:28:49      
      
        its the same here
      
     
    
      
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